Post by justjohn on Jun 1, 2007 12:38:15 GMT -5
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Here's the history of this grudge.
After playing two games with the Cavaliers, Mark Meadows created an alias on the NWFL message board and nominated himself for the "injured all-league" team. He was new to the league and I had no idea who he was, but I thought it was kind of funny that someone would do such a thing. I mentioned it to Coach Potts who joked with Mark about it. Mark was mortified and deeply embarrassed that he'd been found out and pretty much quit the team right then and there.
excuse #1)The GNFA won't consider the NWFL because the schedules are different. DEBUNKED
excuse #2)The GNFA won't consider the NWFL because of allegations of stacking teams. DEBUNKED
excuse #3) The GNFA won't consider the NWFL because of "my master".
This just keeps getting better and better.
Being too cowardly to respond on this message board, here's his response from his sheltered message board:
As the co-founder of the GNFA with Jerrid, this is the final time anyone will hear me speak on the NWFL...and this is mainly for those players, coaches, staff, etc being directed here by the NWFL message board and "my master".
90% of the problems and reasons the GNFA and NWFL will never see a merger is: "my master".
John has a personal hatred of myself and those who created the Shockers, and has alienated the EFL and their Commish with his repeated badgering, bad mouthing, and email campaigns (which you never hear about). He seems to consider it some type of badge of honor to see how many people he can piss off with his message board warriorism.
There is your truth: until the NWFL wakes up and gets rid of a cancer like "my master", it will continue to see itself locked out of great things in the future. As far as Rob Rarey goes, I have no personal issues with him, just see him as becoming another disciple of "justjohn" and parroting what he is fed which is misinformation.
The rest of the NWFL; Commissioner Baines is a stand up guy, does what he thinks is best for HIS league. Most of the coaches try not to burn too many bridges and see with both eyes open...at least the ones I've had contact with. So, no Jerrid's blanket statement about the NWFL isn't accurate, but understanding the passion he has and the great efforts it took to rebuild the EFL from the disgrace of the iNWFL and Chuck Love, I can't fault him for finally saying "ENOUGH".
Anyone who knows what happened on the east side prior to the EFL formation will give Jerrid a pass for becoming emotional when "my master" compares him to Chuck Love.
Phillips enjoys making personal attacks, finding every little thing he can to make himself feel superior, goad people through email, message boards attacks where he'll use his admin powers to alter statements to say things the original author did not state, call them out, and once he has upset off enough people, tries to come back in and play peacemaker and do the whole "why can't we just get along" crap.
So John, you're right don't bother posting over here because you will be deleted, but while reading this, feel free to repost it, in it's ENTIRE AND ORIGINAL content for all to see on your message board.
"my master"; the NWFL Information Officer, NWFL webmaster, and creator of the NWFL message board IS the primary reason the mergers will never happen. He has burned too many bridges with his antics and it is the NWFL players who will suffer. Such is life, the sins of the fathers will haunt the sons.
Mark Meadows
GNFA Co-Founder
90% of the problems and reasons the GNFA and NWFL will never see a merger is: "my master".
John has a personal hatred of myself and those who created the Shockers, and has alienated the EFL and their Commish with his repeated badgering, bad mouthing, and email campaigns (which you never hear about). He seems to consider it some type of badge of honor to see how many people he can piss off with his message board warriorism.
There is your truth: until the NWFL wakes up and gets rid of a cancer like "my master", it will continue to see itself locked out of great things in the future. As far as Rob Rarey goes, I have no personal issues with him, just see him as becoming another disciple of "justjohn" and parroting what he is fed which is misinformation.
The rest of the NWFL; Commissioner Baines is a stand up guy, does what he thinks is best for HIS league. Most of the coaches try not to burn too many bridges and see with both eyes open...at least the ones I've had contact with. So, no Jerrid's blanket statement about the NWFL isn't accurate, but understanding the passion he has and the great efforts it took to rebuild the EFL from the disgrace of the iNWFL and Chuck Love, I can't fault him for finally saying "ENOUGH".
Anyone who knows what happened on the east side prior to the EFL formation will give Jerrid a pass for becoming emotional when "my master" compares him to Chuck Love.
Phillips enjoys making personal attacks, finding every little thing he can to make himself feel superior, goad people through email, message boards attacks where he'll use his admin powers to alter statements to say things the original author did not state, call them out, and once he has upset off enough people, tries to come back in and play peacemaker and do the whole "why can't we just get along" crap.
So John, you're right don't bother posting over here because you will be deleted, but while reading this, feel free to repost it, in it's ENTIRE AND ORIGINAL content for all to see on your message board.
"my master"; the NWFL Information Officer, NWFL webmaster, and creator of the NWFL message board IS the primary reason the mergers will never happen. He has burned too many bridges with his antics and it is the NWFL players who will suffer. Such is life, the sins of the fathers will haunt the sons.
Mark Meadows
GNFA Co-Founder
Here's the history of this grudge.
After playing two games with the Cavaliers, Mark Meadows created an alias on the NWFL message board and nominated himself for the "injured all-league" team. He was new to the league and I had no idea who he was, but I thought it was kind of funny that someone would do such a thing. I mentioned it to Coach Potts who joked with Mark about it. Mark was mortified and deeply embarrassed that he'd been found out and pretty much quit the team right then and there.
excuse #1)
excuse #2)
excuse #3) The GNFA won't consider the NWFL because of "my master".
This just keeps getting better and better.
Being too cowardly to respond on this message board, here's his response from his sheltered message board:
Fact: I did create an alias back in 2004 and suggested an all-injured team (in jest) after talking with some other players. (Jakoba had just suffered a devatating injury as had some of my Cavalier teammates)[/quote}
In jest? Then why an alias? Why only nominate yourself? It doesn't add up.
Confronted? He thought it was funny.
But not before anonymously nominating yourself for "injured all-league".
This was only an issue after you got hurt in a game? Sounds like more sour grapes.
The Jaguars, Hawks and Stallions all joined the NWFL with similar stipulations. The Cavs had nothing to do with it. The Cavs were the only team pushing for your admittance to the league. The other teams did not like the precedent it set (allowing a new team to infringe on the established territory of an existing team).
Only when you and your cowardly cronies create aliases to cause trouble on this message board. Everyone who comes in contact with you becomes a NWFL hater (Maty, Jeff Cole, Brad Dennis, etc).
And yet here you are responding.
Sounds like he gave you an opportunity so why all the sour grapes above?
Yep. You're right in lock-step with Sam Adams. You forgot to mention the official discussions regarding your behavior on this message board. It was again one of the main topics when you and Steve came to the meeting representing the Shockers.
Undercut and destroy? That's your job. You're in this out of spite. The entire first year of the PNFC home page is proof of that. I stand by my posts and comments supporting the PNFC and GNFA. The ideas are solid. It's your motivation for being involved that everyone questions.
Because you're a control freak.
Yeah, politely asking him to consider more interleague games is quite the heinous tactic.
This is just the latest excuse.
You're no longer part of the league are you? Looks like a job well done! Now if we could just get you and your cronies to stop anonymously stirring up trouble on this message board.
In jest? Then why an alias? Why only nominate yourself? It doesn't add up.
Lie: Potts confronted me about it. (Typical tough guy comments deleted.)
Lie: I left the Cavaliers out of embarrassment.
Fact: I left after tearing an ACL against the Ravens
Fact: I left after tearing an ACL against the Ravens
and then continued to see my teammates injured out of Potts' stupidity of 60-play scrimmages, and "smear the queer" games on Thursday before games. Allowing guys to show up on Saturday and START not having practiced, knowing schemes and injuring our own players.
Fact: Some ex-players upset with the antics with the Cavs did get together to form our own team and in 2005 attended an information gathering meeting to see what it would take to be a member. The stipulations demanded by the Cavaliers and backed (rightfully so) by the NWFL were not going to allow the Shockers to be competitive...EVER. So, with that we politely said thanks, but no thanks, went independent and here we are today.
Ever since then John has had this hardon for myself and anyone associated with me.
Now, I don't really care (Typical tough guy comments and juvenile insults deleted.)
Fact of the matter is, after only two weeks with the Cavaliers, Potts asked me to be a team rep and attend the NWFL meeting on behalf of the Cavaliers (Why would he do that unless maybe I knew I could get things done?).
Even then, in 2004 the unofficial discussion at the table was how to get rid of "my master" which was being led by the Eastside Hawks.
So, I leave it up to the message board readers. Take Phillips for what he is worth and what he has to say on the message board, or an unknown like me who has simply built a winning football team and created an alliance that Phillips is trying to undercut and destroy out of jealousy and hatred.
Rob, I won't post on the NWFL message board simply because I am not a member of the NWFL and never will be. That is not my domain and I won't "feed the beast".
Bottomline, Phillips used the same tactics with Jerrid and has alienated the NWFL and the EFL to the point where the players can forget any type of unification.
This is just the latest excuse.
Players of the NWFL, if you ever want things to get better you might want to look at cleaning house of the cancers.
