Post by justjohn on Jul 10, 2007 8:22:33 GMT -5
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Name: "my master"
Title: NWFL Information Officer/Webmaster
Email: ***
IP: ***
Recent Aliases: "justjohn"; "D"; "nwfl"; "fan"
All posts from this individual, IP address, and email address will be logged and deleted from the leaguelineup board.
Translation: "In an effort to remain relevant, we felt that we needed to announce to the world that we will continue doing the same thing we've been doing since the day we created this website. In other words, nothing has changed but we didn't have anything else to report on so we manufactured some news and took another shot at the NWFL."
A couple of points:
"justjohn" and "NWFL" are screen names, not "aliases".
I can't explain "D". One post was authored by "D" and the next by "justjohn". That post was not offensive in any way.
"fan" was used once to encourage the league to use points allowed as a tie-breaker instead of points scored because it encourages sportsmanship and smarter coaching. Knowing that if this suggestion came from "justjohn" it would be erased, I created the fan alias because I thought it was an important point to consider.
Either way, it's hard to claim that I was attempting to be anonymous when every post was made from the same computer.
Second point:
There are have been dozens of pro-PNFC, anti-NWFL aliases used by Meadows and his followers on this message board and the Cavaliers message board. Unlike me, they CAN alter their IP numbers, or at least they make that claim each time we've tried to stop them.
Like picking up a QB from another team for their 2006 championship game, this is just another classic "pot calling the kettle black" moment for the PNFC.
Posting my email address simply proves that this is an ongoing personal vendetta by Mark Meadows that goes back to my asking Cavs' coach Potts about him when he used an anonymous alias to post his "injured all-league" message in which he nominated himself using the "third person'.
Due to spam and other problems I never use my home email address when signing up on the internet. I always use nwfl@hotmail.com. Please remove my home email address from your forum.
Thanks.
Posted Feb 19:
"bolten - everyone is welcome on the NWFL message board, especially those who use their real names or well-known nicknames in their handle or profile.
Anonymous users are welcome too but they have less leeway. Basically your not allowed to "stir the pot" anonymously."
Kinda ironic isn't it John, telling people they are not allowed to "stir the pot" anonymously on the NWFL page while you yourself are on the PNFC site anonymously as "fan" with an email address you don't normally use to identify yourself with, hiding who you really are...what is it they call that...oh yea hypocrisy!
Again,
justjohn - not an alias
NWFL - not an alias, I think this is my league lineup account name, not a screen name that has ever appeared on the PNFC forum.
fan - an alias used once in a discussion about tie breaking procedures
D - I have no idea, but the content of the post was simply correcting information about defunct teams.
All my posts are erased, even those supporting the PNFC, not just posts in which I disagreed with the PNFC leadership.
Mark, again, your hatred and spite towards myself and the NWFL is a gaping wound on an otherwise successful venture. Until you get over your issues from several years ago your just not an appropriate spokesman for the league.
Now "man up" and have a conversation here, or allow a conversation on your message board. I'm not scared to use your forum where you have all the power. You're scared to let me.
Mark said:
Our first individual to make the jaded list for continual efforts to instigate needless message board negativity and a determination to attempt to undermine the efforts of the PNFC. Congratulations, you are number one!Name: "my master"
Title: NWFL Information Officer/Webmaster
Email: ***
IP: ***
Recent Aliases: "justjohn"; "D"; "nwfl"; "fan"
All posts from this individual, IP address, and email address will be logged and deleted from the leaguelineup board.
Translation: "In an effort to remain relevant, we felt that we needed to announce to the world that we will continue doing the same thing we've been doing since the day we created this website. In other words, nothing has changed but we didn't have anything else to report on so we manufactured some news and took another shot at the NWFL."
A couple of points:
"justjohn" and "NWFL" are screen names, not "aliases".
I can't explain "D". One post was authored by "D" and the next by "justjohn". That post was not offensive in any way.
"fan" was used once to encourage the league to use points allowed as a tie-breaker instead of points scored because it encourages sportsmanship and smarter coaching. Knowing that if this suggestion came from "justjohn" it would be erased, I created the fan alias because I thought it was an important point to consider.
Either way, it's hard to claim that I was attempting to be anonymous when every post was made from the same computer.
Second point:
There are have been dozens of pro-PNFC, anti-NWFL aliases used by Meadows and his followers on this message board and the Cavaliers message board. Unlike me, they CAN alter their IP numbers, or at least they make that claim each time we've tried to stop them.
Like picking up a QB from another team for their 2006 championship game, this is just another classic "pot calling the kettle black" moment for the PNFC.
Posting my email address simply proves that this is an ongoing personal vendetta by Mark Meadows that goes back to my asking Cavs' coach Potts about him when he used an anonymous alias to post his "injured all-league" message in which he nominated himself using the "third person'.
justjohn said:
Mark,Due to spam and other problems I never use my home email address when signing up on the internet. I always use nwfl@hotmail.com. Please remove my home email address from your forum.
Thanks.
Mark said:
Request to remove the email address from the public domain is denied John. If you insist on using the account to create an alias and stir up trouble on the PNFC site; it will be exposed home address or not (read the rules of the message board). If you forgot using the account, here is your post from Page 3 on the message board under the alias "fan".Posted Feb 19:
"bolten - everyone is welcome on the NWFL message board, especially those who use their real names or well-known nicknames in their handle or profile.
Anonymous users are welcome too but they have less leeway. Basically your not allowed to "stir the pot" anonymously."
Kinda ironic isn't it John, telling people they are not allowed to "stir the pot" anonymously on the NWFL page while you yourself are on the PNFC site anonymously as "fan" with an email address you don't normally use to identify yourself with, hiding who you really are...what is it they call that...oh yea hypocrisy!
Again,
justjohn - not an alias
NWFL - not an alias, I think this is my league lineup account name, not a screen name that has ever appeared on the PNFC forum.
fan - an alias used once in a discussion about tie breaking procedures
D - I have no idea, but the content of the post was simply correcting information about defunct teams.
All my posts are erased, even those supporting the PNFC, not just posts in which I disagreed with the PNFC leadership.
Mark, again, your hatred and spite towards myself and the NWFL is a gaping wound on an otherwise successful venture. Until you get over your issues from several years ago your just not an appropriate spokesman for the league.
Now "man up" and have a conversation here, or allow a conversation on your message board. I'm not scared to use your forum where you have all the power. You're scared to let me.